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RVW, I do not want to re-invent the wheel but we tried tins some worked some not, we tried the “Ally” Foil worked but inconvenient, so eventually went the “Themis Security” Way with a wallet, neat and convenient and it works.
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Post by RVW »

Have seen them but at that price I think I will stick to a lined tin. Only want something at home and in my caravan
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RVW wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:26 am
PJB729 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:20 am
RVW wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:50 pm How about lining a tin with this stuff?

https://www.troutcatchers.co.uk/adhesiv ... 2x17221816
You shouldn't need to, the tin should be sufficient, the key fob is low power and the RF it emits is UHF, I put my key in a metal coffee tin, with a lid, and could not detect any RF emissions, I could detect the UHF signal from our water meter, they use the signal to read the water meter. Both the key fob and water meter use an RF signal in the 433 MHz range.

Hear what you say but there are too many “ shouldnts “ in your reply. Others have said they have tried a tin and it was not successful. Therefore my suggestion to use the lead foil. Surely that would guarantee no signal getting out of the box?
I have tried a tin box and it was not successful.
There is only one shouldn’t in my post :)

I have the equipment to test for RF emission from a key fob in tin can with a well fitting lid, my advice was based on my tests and experience

For the lead to be fully effective the joints would need to be soldered, RF finds the gaps.
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Post by gvmdaddy »

RVW wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:40 pm Have seen them but at that price I think I will stick to a lined tin. Only want something at home and in my caravan
Same principle, different make, £10 in Halfords UK at the moment.
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I got a 2 pack of faraday pouches for 8 quid from Amazon around 8 months ago, do the job perfectly
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I just got a 2 pack off ebay for £3.69 + postage (uk seller):
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-Car-Key- ... 2749.l2649
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Ken & Dave, at those peanut prices what is everybody waiting for, ours cost more than that a few years back but still work - Good Info’ Dave 😊
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Should I install a Tracker ? I thought this was a interesting article regarding “Trackers” and as this post is more up to date than the original old “Trackers” post I decided to stick it here - Dave 🙂

https://mol.im/a/6627071

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Post by DaveBerlin »

Whoops now even the popular cars are being mentioned including the QQ - Dave 🤨

“Hundreds of popular cars - including four of the five best-selling models in the UK - are susceptible to "keyless theft", new research claims”. Consumer group Which? found the Ford Fiesta, Volkswagen Golf, Nissan Qashqai and Ford Focus were all at risk.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47023003
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Guys, have you all considered your spare key is also transmitting? I have popped mine open to stop it transmitting, this will also save the battery. Will take a tiny moment to clip it back together if it's needed. Win-Win. May have to move the key near the start button if it needs synchronising before starting the car, who knows!

And make sure you don't touch the don't touch parts ;)

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