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Re: security for smart key
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:00 pm
by PJB729
PJB729 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:59 pm
I wouldn't recommend driving with one of these cans in your pocket and before you put your keys in the can make sure the can does not contain coffee
All of the incidences of "Key" theft I have seen happen when the car is outside the owners house, popping your keys in the can will block the Keys RF signal.
Re: security for smart key
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:14 pm
by DaveBerlin
When this problem first arose we kept wrapping the Keys in Ally Foil but it was a pain to keep unwrapping them so that is why I spoke to Themis Security and bought the Wallets, much more convenient - Dave
Re: security for smart key
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:21 pm
by Soya
I tried DIY - laid a tin with foil but it didn't work for me. Bought a faraday pouch at the end.
Re: security for smart key
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:12 pm
by PJB729
At the frequency on which the fob keys operate, which is 433.8 MHz (70cm) I believe, no RF would escape a tin with its lid firmly secured.
Re: security for smart key
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:43 pm
by DaveBerlin
We also tried a small biscuit tin a few years back and it did not work but it could have been a thin gauge material, that’s when we tested the Ally Foil. What has come up on the News again here is going back to the old idea of using Steering Locks. One in particular seems to come out well and that is the DiskLoc Full Cover Lock which is priced though at around €120 +. Another method mentioned was this DNA Method - Dave
https://procarreviews.com/best-steering-wheel-lock/
https://www.carbibles.com/best-steering-wheel-lock/
https://www.ddotdna.eu/an-introduction- ... echnology/
https://www.ddotdna.eu/toyota-germany-a ... ot-system/
Re: security for smart key
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:27 am
by DaveBerlin
Sorry to keep informing on this subject but it’s there and ain’t going away at present and at least it keeps members aware, as it does not look like the Bill are having much success either. This could highlight the problem for new members - Dave
Been shown before :
https://mol.im/a/6572517
Re: security for smart key
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:49 am
by DaveBerlin
A Gang has been caught most likely the Tip of the Iceberg - Dave
https://mol.im/a/6582431
Re: security for smart key
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:50 pm
by RVW
Re: security for smart key
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:20 am
by PJB729
You shouldn't need to, the tin should be sufficient, the key fob is low power and the RF it emits is UHF, I put my key in a metal coffee tin, with a lid, and could not detect any RF emissions, I could detect the UHF signal from our water meter, they use the signal to read the water meter. Both the key fob and water meter use an RF signal in the 433 MHz range.
Re: security for smart key
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:26 am
by RVW
PJB729 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:20 am
You shouldn't need to, the tin should be sufficient, the key fob is low power and the RF it emits is UHF, I put my key in a metal coffee tin, with a lid, and could not detect any RF emissions, I could detect the UHF signal from our water meter, they use the signal to read the water meter. Both the key fob and water meter use an RF signal in the 433 MHz range.
Hear what you say but there are too many “ shouldnts “ in your reply. Others have said they have tried a tin and it was not successful. Therefore my suggestion to use the lead foil. Surely that would guarantee no signal getting out of the box?
I have tried a tin box and it was not successful.
